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Tayson: So here's the big question, how do we live a life? full of adventures travel and memories on our terms without being millionaires without previous experience? And without unlimited amounts of time, that's the big question and this podcast will give you the answers. I'm your co-host Tayson
Dave: and I'm Dave and you're listening to the Live Ultralight podcast powered by Outdoor Vitals.
Tayson: Hey, what's up, we try? Thanks for joining us today. Today is different. If you're joining us, this is the first time we are ever doing a podcast. It's something that I've wanted to do really since the start of the company. But haven't been able to figure out a good way to do it just a Time. Commitments, we've been working really hard on YouTube and between those two platforms. It's really spreads. This thing a few months back though, I kind of had this idea of hey we've got a guy in the office that would be a perfect fit for this and that's why I'm sitting here with Dave. Dave joined our team what two years ago now,
Dave: two years now
Tayson: and a lot of you probably had Interaction with him. He's done pretty much everything around here from Shipping customer, support and different things like that. But what's really cool about Dave is he comes in a lot more qualified than the jobs that he does. But he came here because of lifestyle is looking for and to be a part of what we're doing here and we're really gonna dive into that later in the podcast. But, I'm just a start. I do want to talk a little bit about. What? What the heck we're doing with the podcast? Why we've launched a podcast? And some of the goals of this podcast. Also with this, I just wanted to let you know, too that on these first few episodes, we're gonna be doing some pretty hefty giveaways. We're gonna be trying to incentivize you guys to listen, pay attention, because we really feel like we can provide a lot of value. So, if you stay till the end of this podcast, we will talk about how you can win. Stuff. We're going to be giving away. I don't know, they'll be at least 10 winners if not 20 or 30. We'll talk about it though. So stay tuned for that. So, get through this. So just just a start Let's talk a little bit about why we're doing this podcast. We're not calling it, The Outdoor Vitals podcast. We're calling it to Live Ultralight podcast because we really want to talk a lot about what that means to us. So I'll turn it over you for a second and let you talk a little bit about what I mean, what do you think, little like really means and and how do you see this podcast? Kind of unfolding
Dave: Yeah, I mean, So first off, I'm super excited to start this off. I know this definitely something you wanted to do for a while, So it's it's good to get the ball rolling here, but for me Live Ultralight is just having less things. I would say. So a big thing for me, we've talked about it in the office, me, my wife, my friends just kind of spending your money on experience is and and having less Crappy stuff, and having more, you know, quality premium things, whatever it is, it could be, you know, we're making gears. So that's really what we're looking forward to. But whatever it may be a car or vehicle, you know, an experience things like that. So for me living ultralight is just having, you know, less Less junky stuff and just better premium quality stuff. It makes you more, you know, agile, you want to travel, you want to move things like that, for me, you know, I've moved all over the country. So just having less things you don't feel like you're you're committed to one particular area or spot like that. It just less Less is more
Tayson: Essentia? Yeah, yeah. Less is more in. We believe that everything that's Ultra Lite is inherently better. Typically, to become ultralight, it means that the ingredients of the product, the Fabrics, the insulation. Whatever it is, is a higher quality product. And, and then also, I've just seen this personally, my life, that if it can be smaller, lighter more compact, you're more likely to take it with you wherever you're going, which means you can be ready to go on an adventure. Sometimes just because you have stuff in the trunk of your car other times because hey I can I can go camping out of my car. Instead of my truck you know maybe you don't need a truck because your stuff lighter and easier to pack around. There's there's different things that just Ultra Lite products and it'll try it lifestyle of more minimalist lifestyle allows you to. Really live life to its fullest and have more Adventures.
Dave: I would say two to that is things that are multifunctional is another good one, you know, on backpacking trips. I try not to bring anything that I can't use. In different ways, like whether it be a water bottle or analogy, that I can, you know, boil some water, and put it in my sleeping bag at night to keep me warm, or whatever it may be. So, just things that have multi functional uses would be another good example, of living that. Yeah,
Tayson: and that really goes like, for backpacking, as well as like, if you can use it on a daily basis and use it, backpacking and use it to travel across the world on a trip. To Asia, like all of those things, play into the multifunctional aspect, you know? If I can have one jacket, they can do all of those things instead of having one jacket for urban use and one jacket for backpacking. And one back jacket to take the Asia. You're just how much better off you get to spend more money on one nice product and and that kind of brings us to the next stage of what level try. It means to to us, live, ultra light means that you have less of an environmental impact and more of a social impact. So we, we outright we donate, 1% of Revenue to help. And third world countries with sustainable water projects and different things like that. But This concept of live, Ultra Lite. Also means hey, one jacket. So, for instance, a lot of people don't quite understand this, but, but one jacket that's produced in a normal fashion versus two jackets that are produced You know, completely green. Most people think that the Green Jackets produce like are less have less of a byproduct to the environment. But to my knowledge and the research that I've done the two Green Jackets actually have more of an impact on the environment than the one non-green jacket. So essentially what that saying is if you buy one more premium product and it can last multiple years and you're buying less stuff. You're all So helping the environment. Well there's production or just filling up the landfills. So anyways that's kind of what we want to Compass here and live Ultra. We're gonna talk a lot about backpacking travel just just this type of a lifestyle and adventuring as much as we can living a life of No Regrets. And we're really going to help you one. Learn how to do it. I'm going to talk about skills and experiences and then we're going to help you overcome things. A lot of people have a lot of fears. I mean, you've seen it as you've done your your guiding and and helped people, which will dive into here shortly. But there's a lot of fears, whether it's Financial or time, or they've never done it before and So there's just fears there. And So we also want to help you overcome that. And one of the biggest ways that we're going to be doing, this is through interviewing other people. So this isn't going to be the Opera vital show. I plan to actually come on the show. Maybe once or twice a month, maybe we'll just see. But the real goal of this is actually to interview other people, which is why Dave is a great fit for this. Through his career, he's made a lot of great contacts and I've just noticed him as a person, he's really good at cultivating friendships and keeping them alive and and, you know, it seems like everywhere we go, he's like, I've Got a Friend there. I've got a buddy there and So that really will help us. I think is as we go into this and have people coming on, interviewing people is just very social person, So it's gonna be a great, a great fit for that. So you're gonna be interviewing a lot of people, you know, through hikers. We're gonna be interviewing, you know, World Travelers people on gear, just all sorts of things that we feel like provide value to our listeners,
Dave: photographers bloggers bloggers little bit everything.
Tayson: Yeah, yeah, I mean, a lot of these people were gonna interview, you know, that those types of careers. But we're going to talk a lot about like how do they have those careers and how do they enable them to do Leona live this life of Of what some people would consider luxury. Now, they get to spend a lot of time Outdoors. So So that's really what the podcast is about. So I wanted to shift gears in this pilot episode and spend a lot of time actually talking with Dave and So this is actually going to be kind of a part one part two. I'm gonna be talking a lot about Dave's background. Letting you guys get to know him. And then in part two, we're gonna flip the table and we're gonna let Dave talk to me and kind of interview me, we'll talk a little bit about the backstory of Outdoor Vitals as well, as where we see it going, you know, this next year and So really, there's gonna be a lot of information. That's only going to be able to be found right here on the podcast. We can get really deep into stuff on the podcast really easy. It might let slip things that we probably shouldn't products releases what we're working on. But that's, that's what's So great about the podcast. As we can really get to know our audience, our audience can really get to know us, and we can share more information in this platform than we can any other place. So, I have right into to you, Dave, you've got a very interesting background, we're out here in Cedar City Utah, Southern Utah, but you grew up in Philadelphia. Played played some sports growing up, did some different things and and talk to me a little bit about when you started really like traveling or adventuring or getting Outdoors. So actually, I'm
Dave: originally from Scranton Pennsylvania home of the office.
Tayson: That's actually why I hired him. I'm a big office Watcher. I have been my wife is especially, and when I heard that, I legitimately thought he was joking, like, trying to be funny in the interview and he's like, no, I'm really from there. Here's the better part. I was like, well, you've seen the office right? And he's like,
Dave: no, I haven't. I just started actually. This whole time. But yeah, I'm originally from Pennsylvania Scranton, and that's where I kind of got into the outdoors. Being backpacking. Fishing was a big one in that and the Pocono Mountains that region, and then as I grew up and moved on, I went to Philadelphia. And that's where I spent most of my adult life.
Tayson: West Philadelphia, born and ring.
Dave: Yeah, I actually not too far but and that's where I got the travel bug. When I started actually working for from Marriott, I went to school and I traveled a little bit working for Marriott and they really had really good discounts, and things like that. But the unfortunate thing about working for mayor at was, it was just very, very time-consuming working in the hotel industry. You're working holidays weekends, Around the Clock, someone calls out, you know, you're there all night, overnight, things like that. So I did that for about six seven years and that really is where I got the travel bug where I was able to travel because I had the money and I had the Marriott. Discount and things like that. But most of the time, I just didn't have the free time to travel. So it's kind of like So. Right, here's where you really made a pivot. You're
Tayson: like, all right.
Dave: Yeah,
Tayson: money money. You can have as much money. Know
Dave: is
Tayson: you gotta be giving me millionaire, but you didn't can't necessarily travel or live it to its fullest potential, right?
Dave: Exactly. I was like, I have these opportunities I can go and the money really wasn't. The issue is just the time off was With a big issue for me. So me and my now wife came out west and we came out here and we went on a backpacking trip, went to, you know, Zion Grand Canyon Death Valley and I just fell in love with the West for someone that was born and raised in the Northeast you come out here and it is legitimately like a different planet. Like I thought I was on Mars, this is the craziest place. Is all these places adventure and all these canyons and there's just So much to do out here. So when we got back, I said If I have the opportunity to to move out west, I'm going to take it. My wife being a loving wife, that she is is like, that's what you want to do. If that's gonna be a better quality of life, I'm in, we will do it. So then from there, I found a job online as an Outfitter at a local Outfitter and Zion Springdale.
Tayson: Kind of like online dating. You're like a real job
Dave: really was like I interviewed I had a YouTube kind of Skype interview, they asked me craziest questions and things like that. And I went out and Packed up my car, my little Toyota. All the things I owned and drove across the country by myself, didn't have a place to live. Not if anyone's familiar with that particular area. It's very hard to find rentals outside of the national park, didn't have anywhere to live. I remember driving across the country, I think from West Texas, all the way to Utah. It's snowed in my little Tudor, a little little two-wheel drive, Honda Toyota and I was like, what am I doing? I have nowhere to live. I'm going to the place that I know no one. I just knew that I wanted to try something different, I wanted Adventure So and I think
Tayson: that's pretty impressive because I have heard this before that when you know, the why you can endure any, what and you got out here and you figure out the why, like, I figured out that I love the outdoors. I can't, I can't keep working this corporate lifestyle and and some corporate jobs work for, you know, living ultralight and getting out, but but you're just wasn't working for you. And you're like, I know though, whether I take a pay cut without a place to live, like it's gonna be worth it. And you took that leap of faith and you endured the what which is Driving across the country. I don't have a place to live. I'm gonna get there and I'm gonna figure things out to me personally. Like I'm a pretty well planned guy, that sounds. Like like I don't think I could ever do that.
Dave: And yeah, it's definitely you get stuck in those your Comforts like, yeah, like, where I was comfortable, but it's not what I wanted to do. And that that's I feel, like a big thing for a lot of people like, oh, I'm comfortable with this. I don't want to change it, I want to do something different but how do I do it? Or how do I get to that particular point? And I just remember, like, this is this Crazy, crazy crazy. I get there. The owner of the company, actually, let me stay in a spare room for for a little while until I found a place to live and the rest is history really. I mean,
Tayson: Tell us real quick. Like what did you do with this job? I didn't get you Outdoors.
Dave: So this was this was an outfitter for The Springdale Zion area is not a venture company was the name of the company that I worked for. And we basically outfitted people that wanted to go to the Narrows. Guided Canyon earring rock, climbing mountain biking, things like that. But the outfitting was was the main business. So anyone that wanted to hike, the Narrows in the winter, that's a big business. So we did dry suits. If you want to do Canyon earring, get into the cold wet Canyons, we do wetsuits Canyon earrings shoes things like that. If you want to do backpacking we would do rentals, backpacking, rentals, things like that. So that that's where I kind of started. And really got my knowledge for, for southern Utah, and the local area. And and things like that is basically just telling people, you know, where to go conditions. Things like that. So that's
Tayson: good to spend a lot of time in the park. I mean, you're guiding different highs. You're actually scouting different hikes, you've mentioned on multiple occasions, lots of dive into this story sometime about you're trying to figure out a new pathway, you know, path from point A to point B and I thought you're like gonna die scaling these mountains and different things, but you have spent a lot of time Outdoors, which is what you're
Dave: passionate, like, all the trips that we ran, you got to go on them before, you know, you're kind of selling these trips. So you get to go on them, new new routes. New Canyons new, backpacking. Trails, just, you get to go out and it's kind of scalp them when I was was leaving. We were just starting to get into more mountain biking, guiding mountain biking. So you get to go out and kind of see what trails would be best for different skill levels and and things like that. So definitely I was anyone. That's familiar with the Xeon, I lived Maybe a quarter mile from the main entrance like I walked in there almost every day. So I definitely Was lucky.
Tayson: Yeah I bet a lot of listeners at this point are like well that's great for you but I don't think I could do that with my lifestyle and you know it's like oh here's where he changed but really things got worse from here for you. Not from a family perspective, let's say because next eventually you decided to get new job and So talk to us about what made you decide the biggest news job and and what you did at this new job, because it's It's a pretty interesting one. Obviously you build a lot of relationships from working at Zion, what is it that I Venture company? But then you went and took us stuff farther with basically traveling the whole United States.
Dave: So like I said my my wife was very while being said, go ahead, go get yourself a job and She was my wife. At the time. But I knew that was the one to marry then. But So eventually she found a job out here. In southern Utah. But unfortunately, her job was a little over an hour away from where I was working in Zion. So, in
Tayson: the spare bedroom still right?
Dave: Yeah, yeah. She came out. She loved one from my roommates and things like that. In a spare bedroom. On an air mattress with me for a little while. I
Tayson: didn't know that.
Dave: Yeah, I
Tayson: was still talking about your bosses, but her bedroom.
Dave: No, no, this is my before we transitioned. But anyway, I couldn't make the commute every day and hour. So we moved up to Cedar City where we're at now? And I had to find a job that I still wanted to be in the outdoor industry, but I had a be able to live closer to her. So I took a job as a cross country tour guide with a company called American Adventure. And we would do. Anywhere from five days to 30 days, 30 plus day, trips all over the US. This is actually an international company but I was strictly in the US and Oh,
Tayson: pretty much I can name any place. That sounds interesting to go to and Dave's. Like, yeah, I've been there multiple
Dave: and I'm super, super fortunate. I got to travel all over the country. Basically, every National Park, every city, anyone could ever want to go to, in the US on someone else's dime. It was a lot of European Asian Travelers, and it would be smaller groups. So, yeah,
Tayson: I had to do with some BS, right? Yeah,
Dave: I guess we'll get into that, someday. I like to have some of the other guys on at some point and they could talk about some of those experiences but we would go to just say we started in Southern California. We would take a trip all the way up the West Coast. Sculptor Vancouver, all through Canada. Banff, come down through. Glacier Tetons Yellowstone shoot across South Dakota. Get into Chicago, Niagara Falls end in New York. Have a couple days off a couple weeks off. Depending pick up another group and you shoot down the East Coast all the way down to Key West Disney. Cross Texas, New Orleans, Austin. Like
Tayson: even saw some of the wildest animals in the world when you went through Vegas, right? I mean, you go down the strip, you're taking these Europeans. I mean, this this company would try to give them everything. One of my favorite things is these Europeans had come over and I guess that you got different days. They got to choose the music, right?
Dave: Yeah. So, ever sat in the front,
Tayson: right? Whoever sat in the front that they got to choose the music and you mentioned when we were doing our last, like, company hike that they loved the Chicken Fried song, Right?
Dave: Brown Band every day before the day started, they'd have to listen to chicken fried and just the music that I get Koreans and they listen, all Korean music, not a word of English. So that was pretty interesting.
Tayson: So I have to imagine it that, you know, experiencing these new cultures though, this is probably where you started to get interested in international travel.
Dave: Yeah, absolutely. And I think for me the biggest thing that I took away. Yeah, I was great. I got To go to all these places and and do these trips. But for me I looked at it as being an ambassador for the United States like These people would call him that save up their whole life years whatever come to the United States. This is a dream vacation and I was fortunate enough to take them but for me I think it was just teaching lessons about the United States and a lot of you know,
Tayson: A bad perception, sometimes they don't think we're very arrogant or, you know, there are people in the United States that are like that, but I saw the same thing when I lived in Asia
Dave: all over the world that have that same, you know. But for me, that, that was the biggest thing I wanted to take away from, it was just kind of being Ambassador for the United States open up about whatever they wanted to ask me. I was always, you know ask me whatever and and hopefully that's what I gave to these hope that's the value that I gave to to these these people and So So you've traveled
Tayson: across the US, you're on, you're on, you're on what like, on two weeks off, two weeks
Dave: and some, some chips would be five days long. For me, I try to stay in the southwest as much as I could because that's why I lived. But fortunately, it didn't really work like that. There was one point where I had a 30 35 day trip somewhere in between there. I had maybe a week off and then hopped on another 30 35 day trip back to where I started. So if you started in on the west coast, you would finish that trip on the East Coast. Do you pick up another group and then you come back to the West Coast. So, I mean there'd be times. I'd be gone months at a time. Yeah,
Tayson: you're I don't know, she might have been your fiance girlfriend at that point, but She's saying for first sticking with you and dealing with that, that's for sure. I think my wife would have been not a not as pleased with that kind of situation. So So that kind of brings us. I guess, this next point is after a while you're like, man, this is super hard. This is tough. And you actually went back, kind of corporate. You went back to a bank, right?
Dave: Yeah.
Tayson: When I I was interviewing you, you were working at a bank which was totally different.
Dave: Yeah. I mean that was definitely interesting change for me. My my wife was like, Hey, you know I know you you enjoy this and all but it's really not you know, sustainable for Trying to be married and things like that. So we kind of made a compromise and I said, all right. Well, I'll quit the traveling gig and came back and just took a job at a bank because I needed something to do and and it wasn't terrible but it paid the bills like I guess.
Tayson: Yeah. So So eventually though, you came you in a new interviewed for a job with Outdoor Vitals, I could see right away like the passion level, I'd actually made some some mistakes I thought of mistakes, but in the past I'd hire people that weren't as passionate about, what what we're doing here and my interview. Dave, it was very clear that he came with a pulse of experience and, and really, was living the lifestyle we wanted. He traveled all over with with his Jaws, but also you and your wife, also traveled a ton on your own dime and did different things like that. So talk a little bit about what, you know, major bring what, what brought you to Outdoor Vitals. And then kind of let's dive into like how you live ultra light on on a daily basis or yearly basis? Now,
Dave: I mean the story on actually how I found out about I wasn't super familiar with the brand really and I was at a local Sports sporting good shop that that's in town here that Tayson and we have a relationship with. And I saw one of our bags hanging and I was like, man, I hadn't really heard. I don't think about this brand, it's really nice bag. Can you tell me more about it? And the guy that that worked there is actually friends with Jason's brother and he's like gather local local branch. She checked them out. And when I line and I saw that they were hiring and I mean that's another I just feel like that was kind of like it was like perfect time. Yeah, it was like meant to be. It was just kind of how I moved out west. It was like, you know, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be. And obviously, this this position in this job, and everything was meant to be, and I was like, that's crazy. Now, looking back on it, how that worked is is Just the right place at the right time and it's obviously meant to be
Tayson: right? And I one thing I wanted to stay here is from an employment position. He took a pay cut, he took maybe a status cut in different things to come in here. But the fit was right for his lifestyle, which which was cool because, you know, we're able to fluctuate with his time off and doing a few different things like that. And the goal is always get him to a position where he could, you know. You know, like with this podcast you can you can now do the podcast and and work on some of this. And we're hiring some people underneath Dave, and he's getting back to be a managerial position like he had before in the past and different things. But there's probably a little bit of a leap of faith there but the fit was right and and it's opened up some opportunities. So I think I think that's I think there's some things to learn here. I guess just from from interviewing Dave with his career path is Clear Choices, life choices. And as I listened to it there's things that So far in his past. I'm like, man I don't know if I can resonate or connect with some of these things because I've never worked as a guide and there's no way I can go toward the US in the way that you did and see all these things. But now he's made a full transition to where his wife, she works at a college. And So she has very stable consistent job and then he works here where we need him honestly as much as we can. But at the same time you're finding ways to take some pretty awesome vacation. I mean, just in 2018, I don't know what are all the trips you did. I'm trying to think of them off my head. I mean, you're gone all December, like
Dave: probably since I moved back and I don't even know since Probably just right before I started. I travel all over Europe for the holidays then to Rome Spain. Where else did we go? France, Switzerland. That was a European trip. That would have been two Christmases ago. Hawaii, southeast Asia. Hey,
Tayson: did Hawaii out of a van?
Dave: Yes, we went to, we went to Hawaii for the holidays and rented an old Volkswagen van and just Ah you know it's you're making things happen. Yeah exactly.
Tayson: Like I mean you guys don't have I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't be classified as someone that's like, yeah. I travel the world because most people that they think a lot, there's a perception that a lot of people like you can't travel the world without Kind of money career, you know, it doesn't seem possible and you might look at Dave and be like, I don't know if that's possibly but yet you just rattling off. All these places that you've made it happen, you know? I went to Hawaii, I made it happen in a van which honestly had some really cool. I mean, personally, I'm like, wow that sounds really cool. Other people might be like, I'm staying in a hotel. I'm going to Hawaii on the beach, but at the same time, you're on the same Beach.
Dave: Yeah.
Tayson: Doesn't matter if you're not hotel or this man.
Dave: Yeah. That's, you know, we just kind of camped on the beach. Everyone's in a while, we would get a spot at a campground, take a shower, things like that. But we literally were going to the West End and in the Ritz, and all these super nice resorts were just parked van and hang out with everybody else and things like that. And I think that's what you need to do. If, if you do want to travel and make a lifestyle out of it in the position that I'm in, maybe some people have, you know, a little bit more money or that's the lifestyle I want to live and stay in hotels. Don't go wrong. You say, no, tell us when we travel a lot, but just depends on where it is that I knew that once we got to Hawaii would be a little bit more expensive. So, that was our compromise. We needed a car when we got there, and we needed a place to stay. So why not rent something that we can sleep in and travel in? So, it was really a win-win there.
Tayson: So to this van, is that what inspired you to come back and convert your Jeep and have your Jeep? Then
Dave: it really did. And, yeah, I think just recently I have A Grand Cherokee and I kind of put a bed platform in there and
Tayson: you got these little boxes. Buckets that go in there, keeps everything. David one thing that Dave is really good at in the drives him crazy. Here. He's really organized. He's like OCD organization. Everyone else here in the office is like
Dave: I'm
Tayson: too busy to organize and So it's a constant battle. It's a good mix.
Dave: But
Tayson: but yeah, you've got this this bed platform. He's got all these buckets in there and it's pretty cool setup. I think it's pretty cool and you probably made it for
Dave: I was some two by fours and some
Tayson: just been
Dave: getting
Tayson: super Thrifty. I know you've got some more international travel ahead of you this year and we won't, we won't dive into that. But you've got some things coming up and, and I guess, probably reasons that I feel like Davis is going to be a great host for this. He gets this, he lives this, he loves the gear, he loves the lifestyle, And I think it's gonna be able to provide a lot of value, and I think there's a lot of things you guys can learn from him. I think financially, you guys do a lot of remarkable things, you live a very Thrifty Thrifty lifestyle, but at the same time, like it's hard to for me to look at your lifestyle and be like, Dave is missing this because I don't feel like you are like there's So many things that you you like say no to but on a daily basis like those don't affect you. But at the same time, you have memories that are going to last a lifetime and all these areas. So financially, there's some really cool things too that like you can contribute and help help our listeners understand and really dive into. So,
Dave: That's another thing too. Like a lot of people maybe listening or watching this is like all you know he probably comes from some money and he got things that stuff to fall back on and things like that. And that's a big one that I hear a lot of people say not specifically to me but just in general like all they probably have Rich parents, the fall back on and things like that and and I did not come from a financial, you know, background or upbringing or anything like that at all. So, just People listening to this like, oh that's not really feasible, but it like an idea and a fun day for you is
Tayson: when you would you know unscrew the the fire hydrant and play in the street right? With that water, I mean, we're talking like humble, humble beginnings and and whatnot. And and yet like I say, you've got all these accolades of things you've been able to do and, and you're still young. I mean, you still have So much in front of you and yet you've been able to accomplish these. So, these are all things that like, we're gonna pull apart dissect in the future. You'll be able to, you know, contribute, those more in-depth responses. I feel like as we go And give people, you know, tips and tactics of how you say and how you where you may be cut but where you get to add really to the experience side of your life. So let's I'm gonna start wrapping this up here. I don't know if there's any one thing in particular, you want to say before, we close this out, anything that's on your mind that maybe you want the listeners to know about you or just a tip trick tactic, something that they can apply.
Dave: Yeah, I mean nothing particularly about me. I think just a big one just for traveling adventuring and things like that is if you want to, if you want to do it you need to to set a goal, or you need to put it on the calendar or something to make yourself, do it. If it's like, hey, I want to go here. You need to save or travel safe. For that particular thing. I would say that that's the biggest one for me, maybe you're not going out to eat as much and I love to go out to eat, So, that's the guys are Foodies. Yeah, that's the One of the biggest things of traveling it. A lot of it is like hey what food, you know we just came back from Japan and now for me that's if you're into eating like that's that's the place to be. But for me that would be that. The big one is. If if you want to do something, you gotta make sacrifices to do it. And, and put it on the calendar, put it in the bank account, started a new savings account, whatever you have to do, but You can do it.
Tayson: Wishes is really. end up getting you know where but if you really you know get on the same page with you and your partner if you've got a partner and and you get it on the books and you know you see those things out and What you can do and you really have a hard goal and you're set on accomplishing that. So All right. So before we close this out, let's talk really quick. And we're gonna do some aggressive giveaways. Here, we are going to push this out, to our audience, and to our full list. So, there's going to be a lot of Tens of people that see that we're launching this podcast. What we're gonna do though is we're gonna invite you and encourage you to go leave a review on iTunes or whatever platform you're listening to. If you leave a review on the podcast it's gonna help us get ranked. Get it helped us get found helped us, you know, improve our mission and help more people live in Ultra, like lifestyle have more experience in their life and we can help them, you know, get better gear it, reasonable prices and, and be able to accomplish those goals. I mean, big, a big motivator for me when I start out started out revital is just there's So many people out there that They've had that experience with the outdoors because of their gear, you know, and then they never go Outdoors again. Like we want to we want to attack that from every angle we want to bring in the product side So that there's no such thing, as bad weather, there's just bad gear. So we want to help people get the gear, obviously that will allow them to enjoy the outdoors and travel and everything they can. But there's there's a whole other element which is the education side and that's really what this podcast is going to be about. So if you guys will go over to iTunes, Stitcher wherever you're listening, leave a review. We're gonna go comb through those, and we're going to put you into a giveaways for this giveaway. What I'm going to do is we're going to give away 10 of our stretch pillows. These right here and there are two and a half ounce. With a stretch fabric on them. Super, super comfortable, people are loving these. We've we move a lot of them, So we're gonna give away 10. However, what I'm going to do is I'm going to set a cap and I'm going to say that if we get 20 reviews, we'll do 10. If we get say 40 reviews, we're going to do 20 pillows. We're going to that gives you a 50% chance to get a pillow if you leave a review. So big odds. But we're going to cap it at 30. So if we get 60 reviews, we're going to cap it there. But I mean, if you're very first personally even reviewing whatnot and we don't get to over 60 reviews. I mean, you got a 50% chance of winning a pillow. So pretty good incentive. I hope but, and I'm not saying you have to leave five-star review. If you didn't love this, you don't like where we're going with this. You can let us know, but does it leave a review will three into a drawing and we'll do that. Also real quick we're going to be doing a second episode or Dave's gonna be talking more to me getting some of my backstory company backstory. But also what we're doing in 2019, we've changed a lot of the company. From four and a half years ago when I started this thing out of my second bedroom. So much has changed and there's some huge Windows of opportunity ahead of us. That I'm really excited. It's like like we're finally getting to do what I dreamed all along but When you start with 500 bucks, you don't always get to go straight at that dream. So, we're gonna be unpacking some of that. And part two of this, these pilot episodes. But yeah, I really appreciate Dave being on here. It's, it's been a blast. Listen, I I enjoy listening to your backstory. It's So different diverse. Comes from Scranton Pennsylvania neighbors with Dwight Schrute but no thanks. Thanks for coming on and being a part of this and Yeah. We'll go ahead and wrap this up again. If you want to go leave us a review, we'll get you into that drawing. And we'll
Dave: subscribe. Don't forget to
Tayson: yes. Subscribe, there's some platforms that allow you to leave a review, but make sure you're definitely subscribed to get notified when we do release more episodes and with that we'll close this out. Go live, ultra light and we'll catch you on an episode next episode.
